tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post8652406568034352235..comments2023-10-29T15:56:46.073+00:00Comments on TOTAL ALES: The Fall of Goose IslandAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-29744947230338179192017-07-27T01:01:43.955+01:002017-07-27T01:01:43.955+01:00I thought I was the only one..
Goose Island IPA wa...I thought I was the only one..<br />Goose Island IPA was one of my favorite beer until the acquisition. I knew something like this would happen so I drove an hour to get two cases produced from Chicago. Once in a while I order gooses Island IPA but it doesn't have the same aroma and taste. It is just an ordinary low end IPA... I have found a clone recipe that is supposedly pretty close to the real thing and I can't wait to brew my good ol Goose Island nitinolmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684560647298912290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-33208566927667150372016-06-26T17:46:09.039+01:002016-06-26T17:46:09.039+01:00I have to disagree with you Pete, It used to be a ...I have to disagree with you Pete, It used to be a great beer, but its definitely not what it used to be. Patrick Murraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-90149160658284669502015-01-15T10:07:29.972+00:002015-01-15T10:07:29.972+00:00Having just had a several paragraph comment bleedi...Having just had a several paragraph comment bleeding disappear on me, I'll keep it short, I totally agree, it's such a shame tooFilrdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193228391167385203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-78611740800198865032015-01-11T11:23:46.379+00:002015-01-11T11:23:46.379+00:00Interesting to hear Peter, thanks. I'll have t...Interesting to hear Peter, thanks. I'll have to pick up a bottle for myself to confirm. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-41478533323485165142015-01-11T11:22:31.800+00:002015-01-11T11:22:31.800+00:00Crop yield is one thing, Farmers selling the most ...Crop yield is one thing, Farmers selling the most popular hops for a premium to the highest bidder is another. Smaller brewers just won't be able to get hold of the hops they want. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-39459246955312299122015-01-10T15:30:18.859+00:002015-01-10T15:30:18.859+00:00Having just had a bottle with the new branding I c...Having just had a bottle with the new branding I can only echo your tasting notes Matt. I wouldn't refuse one if handed to me but won't pick up from Waitrose again when it's nestled between Punk IPA and Jaipur. Bad news as this beer was important in my beer journey too, first coming across it at Highbury Vinters in north London. Shame. Peter Mac CiarraĆhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495998965371859222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-7376116085739266122015-01-10T11:34:37.825+00:002015-01-10T11:34:37.825+00:00Of course it's already happening with antipode...Of course it's already happening with antipodean hops, brewdog having to contract well in advance for amounts and reduce amount of NS in Punk as its just not available in volumes required. Think brewdog also biggest user of Simcoe and will only be using more as they grow. I'd hate to see what would happen to beer availability and price if the crop in Yakima or elsewhere failed one yearbeersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-21243420581223411882015-01-09T22:19:54.068+00:002015-01-09T22:19:54.068+00:00Was browsing in my local Waitorse (Islington) toda...Was browsing in my local Waitorse (Islington) today and it seems like they already have the newly branded IPA in stock there. <br /><br />Misknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-81766067663499106292015-01-09T21:38:03.861+00:002015-01-09T21:38:03.861+00:00Anyone that things Goose Island is an English IPA ...Anyone that things Goose Island is an English IPA needs to familiarise themselves with the work of Messrs Greene and King. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-8487516574448718322015-01-09T21:36:42.109+00:002015-01-09T21:36:42.109+00:00First Burton Ale, now Goose Island IPA, it's n...First Burton Ale, now Goose Island IPA, it's not a good week for my desert island beers :-(Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-53374094723398739752015-01-09T16:55:33.921+00:002015-01-09T16:55:33.921+00:00Thanks for the insight Michael, your last point ab...Thanks for the insight Michael, your last point about the macro Citra IPA is the stuff of nightmares. Thing is it appears to me that they've consciously made the decision to alter the recipe for IPA so that they can increase both the yield and the margin - for the stock produced out west at least. It's a crying shame but, as per your points, understandable from the sustainability point of view. <br /><br />It looks like there is still a lot of IPA stock in the UK with the old branding, via the previous supplier, James Clay. From what I hear all the bottles with new branding will be shipping out of Baldwinsville, NY. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-61471763113744936292015-01-09T14:57:48.676+00:002015-01-09T14:57:48.676+00:00Can't arugue against the profit motive of cour...Can't arugue against the profit motive of course, but there are other important factors when scaling up a beer that far. Yeast strains that worked in tiny fermenters in Chicago struggle to maintain in huge fermenters in Fort Collins and elsewhere. It's hugely stressful on the yeast. Sourcing is a big question too. Getting their hands on the massive amounts of hops necessary for that IPA isn't really sustainable yet (and maybe ever). These aren't good things, but they're real constraints. I recall once that McDonalds wanted to switch to real strawberries for their milk shakes based on consumer demand, but it took them 6 years to get the strawberry yields high enough that their switch wouldn't dessimate the national crop for others. Imagine if a dozen macro beer brands suddenly decided to macro Citra IPA. I shudder. <br /><br />One other note - a good bit of the Goose Island beer in the UK actually comes out of Chicago so they can apply the right labeling, which would be too costly to run at the larger plants. You get all the locally produced 312 from what I've heard. Enjoy it! Michael Kiserhttp://www.goodbeerhunting.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-74523993376715421322015-01-09T13:56:41.674+00:002015-01-09T13:56:41.674+00:00That's pretty much my theory too Andrew.That's pretty much my theory too Andrew. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-68667637089456100622015-01-09T10:54:04.717+00:002015-01-09T10:54:04.717+00:00Sounds like "death by accountant". This ...Sounds like "death by accountant". This happens when a company cares more about returning profit to their shareholders than they do about their product and their customers.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023653374988074993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-66824543651747901592015-01-09T10:41:17.877+00:002015-01-09T10:41:17.877+00:00I would have agreed with Pete until I went to the ...I would have agreed with Pete until I went to the brewery where it was made and tried it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-49113842692150219312015-01-09T10:40:48.452+00:002015-01-09T10:40:48.452+00:00Well, in my opinion there is one massive region, m...Well, in my opinion there is one massive region, margin. If the amount of ingredients used in the beer was contradictory to the margin AB-InBev expected to make at the price point they saw the beer selling at then why wouldn't they change it. How many times have they changed the ABV of Stella over the last decade?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-42261505767672499122015-01-09T10:39:08.171+00:002015-01-09T10:39:08.171+00:00It's definitely heavily inspired and influence...It's definitely heavily inspired and influenced by English IPA but the high amounts of US hops and crystal malt means it doesn't taste quite like one. Well, it does now at any rate. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-49739280696169068642015-01-09T10:23:29.330+00:002015-01-09T10:23:29.330+00:00Pete Brown's latest blog:
"Though it pa...Pete Brown's latest blog: <br /><br />"Though it pains me to say it, Goose Island IPA is actually a better quality beer since it has been brewed with cutting-edge A-B Inbev technology than it was on knackered old microbrewery plant that couldn't keep up with volume"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-53707523863623332482015-01-09T09:27:12.378+00:002015-01-09T09:27:12.378+00:00There's no reason to change the taste of these...There's no reason to change the taste of these beers after a big take over. I'm surprised. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-89507810628636215122015-01-09T09:02:24.306+00:002015-01-09T09:02:24.306+00:00Technically Goose Island is an English style IPA. ...Technically Goose Island is an English style IPA. Hence the extra malt body, less of a hop bomb. Great beer, disappointed to hear they are letting the brand down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com