tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post8907925127259936542..comments2023-10-29T15:56:46.073+00:00Comments on TOTAL ALES: The Price of CraftAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-1402511075418641192020-06-12T01:57:42.034+01:002020-06-12T01:57:42.034+01:00ATTENTION ARE YOU IN NEED OF PERSONAL LOAN/INVESTM...ATTENTION ARE YOU IN NEED OF PERSONAL LOAN/INVESTMENT LOAN/BUSINESS FUNDING???Email: goodnewsloancompany7@gmail.com<br /><br />We have provided over $30 Billion in business loans to over 50,000 business owners just like you. We use our own designated risk technology to provide you with the right business loan so you can grow your business. Our services are fast and reliable, loans are approved within 24 hours of successful application. Do you find yourself in a bit of trouble with unpaid bills and don't know which way to go or where to turn? 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Slightly off topic, but by any chance do you know what gross margin most beer-focused off licences make in the UK selling UK craft beer?Travis Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18060813405357612290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-31912498728568476532014-06-20T08:34:02.197+01:002014-06-20T08:34:02.197+01:00Price points are purely psychological, but it has ...Price points are purely psychological, but it has been proven time and again that price points used correctly can mean more sales and a bigger profit for you. To move products better, try combining items for a better price.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00860768323815921867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-8254110072012512592014-02-17T10:07:25.753+00:002014-02-17T10:07:25.753+00:00In reference to your comparison I think this big p...In reference to your comparison I think this big price difference between the Hoppin' Frog and Goose Island is down to GI being owned by AB InBev and produce in much higher volumes, they can sell cheaper because they have larger production and wider distribution, it's the economy of scale. I think in the case of Oskar Blues you might be right but UK beer lovers would maybe pay that once to try it but never again because there is a lot of great beer as good as that available for half the price. I don't think the price is entirely down to OB but a lot of it is down to distribution costs and dealer markups.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-8116600092905741772014-02-13T17:20:56.640+00:002014-02-13T17:20:56.640+00:00Interesting post. Even if you're point was to ...Interesting post. Even if you're point was to show the drastic differences in % from US to UK, you've passed over the glaring point that per ounce each of these brewers' prices vary significantly. Generally the high gravity beers cost more, but the variance in price is pretty big even then (compare Hoppin' Frog at ~$0.73 to Goose's ~$0.52). I think you can just chalk this up to the branding. Oskar Blues has a strong brand and based on your post, demand in UK, so they charge for it. Merlin U Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15828207489492279314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-6415023094130732242014-02-13T09:56:34.059+00:002014-02-13T09:56:34.059+00:00That Cantillon price is mad, especially with the w...That Cantillon price is mad, especially with the wealth of great sours being produced in the US right now that are probably a lot cheaper. The punk seems quite reasonable where you are, in Co is $4 for one bottle of Punk or 5am Saint and $5 for Hardcore.<br /><br />I can't even find Marble Decadence in London!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-48534202065264863562014-02-13T09:54:33.603+00:002014-02-13T09:54:33.603+00:00Magic Rock have actually been in touch explaining ...Magic Rock have actually been in touch explaining the price difference and it makes sense, I'd also quite happily pay that for Cannonball, it's good enough to warrant the price.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-19624428087657436962014-02-13T06:33:54.038+00:002014-02-13T06:33:54.038+00:00Guess the point is the % difference should be larg...Guess the point is the % difference should be larger the higher the ABV is.<br /><br />SN & Odell do that, Anchor are flat and then it appears the others are the opposite. Perhaps the Hoppin Frog or BCBS are just overpriced in the US?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-78447522205165700602014-02-12T21:15:42.829+00:002014-02-12T21:15:42.829+00:00I can get 4-packs of Punk here for maybe 10 dollar...I can get 4-packs of Punk here for maybe 10 dollars; Marble Decadence and similar 750 run to about 25/30 dollars; Halcyon is around 8/9, Bracia I think is 20 dollars or so. Though import prices vary quite wildly really - Cantillon is $30 minimum for 375s, and that stuff never really reaches the shelves. I think the Sam Smiths imports are pretty cheap. Though to be honest I don't really take note of the prices.Brother Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10197469348962494614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-8394044753541839342014-02-12T17:47:15.968+00:002014-02-12T17:47:15.968+00:00But it's not really a margin, it's just a ...But it's not really a margin, it's just a retail price difference. I can't think that many people would say they had paid 50% more having shelled out £4 a pint at one pub compared to £2 at another.<br /><br />Anyway, my nitpicking aside, it's very interesting seeing the differential.<br /><br />I'm not sure why cannonball should be more expensive than torpedo. Yes magic rock are miniscule in comparison but I'd have thought shipping costs would bring them into line. I tell you what though, paying a quid extra for the 1 day old cannonball I had the other week did seem worth it!Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-62139091362185364532014-02-12T14:49:08.167+00:002014-02-12T14:49:08.167+00:00I like to work in margins, I guess that's how ...I like to work in margins, I guess that's how my brain works. 70% seems like a more sensible figure that 337% especially when 50% is actually about the margin of difference you'd expect after shipping and duty has been taken into account.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-13495492192519831642014-02-12T14:46:32.160+00:002014-02-12T14:46:32.160+00:00*Hands over can of worms* Would you like to open i...*Hands over can of worms* Would you like to open it or shall I do the honours?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-79985520388869880452014-02-12T14:40:05.084+00:002014-02-12T14:40:05.084+00:00Why is craft expensive? Is it due to an old allego...Why is craft expensive? Is it due to an old allegory regarding fools, money and parting?Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-69766057892546045122014-02-12T13:35:21.821+00:002014-02-12T13:35:21.821+00:00I think the way you are working out the percentage...I think the way you are working out the percentage difference isn't very clear. It's an exponential scale, so the difference between 50% and 60% is rather more than you'd think on the face of it.<br /><br />Why not just do £/$, so it's a multiple? i.e. Dales Pale Ale is 3.37 times more expensive here than the US, and SNPA is 1.88 times more. Make more sense in my head any way. Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-8978722784649848082014-02-12T11:16:07.191+00:002014-02-12T11:16:07.191+00:00Good points and thanks for sharing them, I decided...Good points and thanks for sharing them, I decided to move the focus of the post away from excise it's it's less about beer being more expensive in the UK than in the US and more about the wild differences in price between different US brands that are available in the UK... if that makes sense. With the post already at 2000 words I had to start editing down and leaving stuff out!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-473050063345066962014-02-12T11:15:39.677+00:002014-02-12T11:15:39.677+00:00Thanks Em!
It's weird, last year I was over ...Thanks Em!<br /><br /> It's weird, last year I was over US imports and found myself drinking mostly UK and Belgian gear but since about mid December I've been craving US IPA's that have that little bit of extra residual sweetness that balances those hops. I also think the standard of imports is gradually improving and recognise that even if the distributor gets it to the vendor quickly the onus is then on them to store the beer correctly and sell through the stock before it expires.<br /><br />Plus, I'll happily buy US imports because in many cases they are quite a bit cheaper than beer... case in point:<br /><br />US: http://www.beerritz.co.uk/buy/sierra-nevada-torpedo-35-5cl_50.htm<br /><br />UK: http://www.beerritz.co.uk/buy/magic-rock-cannonball-33cl_1239.htm<br /><br />Why is the locally brewed one 25% more expensive?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362693914759656245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-91010479559263831742014-02-12T10:50:17.032+00:002014-02-12T10:50:17.032+00:00Great post, Matt. The 'cost of craft' is a...Great post, Matt. The 'cost of craft' is a very interesting topic. Sure, there will always be some people who will pay any price for a beer they want, which possibly allows some outlets to charge any figure they like for imports in the knowledge that someone will go there (but will the beer still be 'fresh' by the time they do? I'm kind of over imported hop-forward US beers right now, but that's another post.). But on the whole, the majority of people are not prepared to pay what they feel is way too high a price for an imported ('special') beer. Especially when the UK is producing some pretty special beers of its own. So, I guess we'll have to wait and see how it pans out for stuff like Oskar Blues - might turn out to be pricing themselves out of the market in the long run.<br /><br />EmsEmmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06761021858837635618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7475885845704210397.post-59597887701671783272014-02-12T08:09:03.283+00:002014-02-12T08:09:03.283+00:00Interesting post however it does underestimate the...Interesting post however it does underestimate the elephant in the room - excise duty.<br /><br />A quick google gives the duty rate in Colorado as 8 cents a gallon in addition to the federal rate of 58 cents a gallon (and indeed drops further for microbreweries). This is therefore 6 cents (4p) per 355ml bottle and is the same rate regardless of ABV.<br /><br />UK duty rates vary by ABV, the weakest beer on the list is 4.9% - the tax on this would be over 33p a bottle. Taking the ABV to 7.2% for Sierra Nevada brings the duty to 48.9p. We then come to HSBD and an even greater differential. The Goose Island costs a whopping £1.29 a pint (and is therefore excluding duty actually cheaper in the UK). <br /><br />Oh and once you apply standard retailer markup to these the impact can be increased by 50%. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com